i have read several posts by posters who fervently hope jws will become a mainstream religion, or will become "the truth," or will stop teaching this doctrine, or tweak that one, and "oh, if they would only [fill in the blank].".
such dreaming will, in the end, come to naught.
there are practical reasons why.. (1) the rank and file have no authority over the governing body.. (2) the rank and file do not hold sway over any of the corporate interests.. (3) the vast majority of memorial partakers are not credible in the eyes of the governing body, nor do they have any authority over anything.. (4) the organization shows a willingness to publicly claim beliefs to which jehovah's witnesses do not actually subscribe in order to improve public image (see lisa's interview with j.r. brown), while retaining the same hard-line beliefs in reality.. (5) the governing body is unwilling to relinquish control over the organization, to share authority with underlings (e.g.
Who would put themselves at risk to go save them from their self imposed brainwashing?
Do you know anyone who would make this kind of sacrifice to go rescue some lost sheep from themselves?
Can you point in the right direction to find someone with this kind of heart and courage to take on a job of this magnitude?
My mom is one of their prisoners.....
i've known two professional magicians in my lifetime.. one was a friend and the other was a very close friend.. both would discuss magic with me at different times.
each was devoted to protecting the secrecy necessary to maintain the brotherhood of illusion.. however, i am a curious person.
i am challenged by the unknown.
Could misleading others ever really be a "good" thing...or "right"?
Or does it depend on the intentions behind doing so?
i've known two professional magicians in my lifetime.. one was a friend and the other was a very close friend.. both would discuss magic with me at different times.
each was devoted to protecting the secrecy necessary to maintain the brotherhood of illusion.. however, i am a curious person.
i am challenged by the unknown.
Oh...I am sorry.
I tend to do that sometimes,,,I hope you can forgive me.
I just caught that somehow he had admiration for people who mislead others and wanted to be like them...instead of being one misled by them.
It kinda bothered me although I respect his honestly in admitting it...
Sometimes it would seem when people say how they really feel about something bad or not....it can actually help others!
Thanks Nark...no hard feeling buddy.....I really do appreciate your honesty or truth on this matter...it opened up many doors in my mind!
I hope I can come to france someday and drink some wine with you!
You rock man!
i have read several posts by posters who fervently hope jws will become a mainstream religion, or will become "the truth," or will stop teaching this doctrine, or tweak that one, and "oh, if they would only [fill in the blank].".
such dreaming will, in the end, come to naught.
there are practical reasons why.. (1) the rank and file have no authority over the governing body.. (2) the rank and file do not hold sway over any of the corporate interests.. (3) the vast majority of memorial partakers are not credible in the eyes of the governing body, nor do they have any authority over anything.. (4) the organization shows a willingness to publicly claim beliefs to which jehovah's witnesses do not actually subscribe in order to improve public image (see lisa's interview with j.r. brown), while retaining the same hard-line beliefs in reality.. (5) the governing body is unwilling to relinquish control over the organization, to share authority with underlings (e.g.
Well...I put it on myspace...on the philosophy and religion section on the forums.
Lets see what our children have to say..see what kind of children they want.
I will keep ya posted.
i have read several posts by posters who fervently hope jws will become a mainstream religion, or will become "the truth," or will stop teaching this doctrine, or tweak that one, and "oh, if they would only [fill in the blank].".
such dreaming will, in the end, come to naught.
there are practical reasons why.. (1) the rank and file have no authority over the governing body.. (2) the rank and file do not hold sway over any of the corporate interests.. (3) the vast majority of memorial partakers are not credible in the eyes of the governing body, nor do they have any authority over anything.. (4) the organization shows a willingness to publicly claim beliefs to which jehovah's witnesses do not actually subscribe in order to improve public image (see lisa's interview with j.r. brown), while retaining the same hard-line beliefs in reality.. (5) the governing body is unwilling to relinquish control over the organization, to share authority with underlings (e.g.
Are we supposed to go and try to open their eyes and save them from their wicked ways..even sacrifice ourselves if nessesary to set them a good example...or sit back and condemn them and pray for God to destroy them while we watch nodding or arrogant heads in agreement?
Is that the kind of children God raised?
Perhaps you need to ask your God before responding.
i've known two professional magicians in my lifetime.. one was a friend and the other was a very close friend.. both would discuss magic with me at different times.
each was devoted to protecting the secrecy necessary to maintain the brotherhood of illusion.. however, i am a curious person.
i am challenged by the unknown.
I am talking of "secrets" NOT magic as you so shallowly view my point I am making.
i've known two professional magicians in my lifetime.. one was a friend and the other was a very close friend.. both would discuss magic with me at different times.
each was devoted to protecting the secrecy necessary to maintain the brotherhood of illusion.. however, i am a curious person.
i am challenged by the unknown.
I am not against that.....I am under the impression you have not read and researched the entire thread by your response.
What is the magicians apprentice among the crowd telling all his secrets as he does them considered. (since you missed this question somehow.)
Is he a tratior or savior to the crowd?
how would you view him?
i've known two professional magicians in my lifetime.. one was a friend and the other was a very close friend.. both would discuss magic with me at different times.
each was devoted to protecting the secrecy necessary to maintain the brotherhood of illusion.. however, i am a curious person.
i am challenged by the unknown.
Perhaps that is what He meant by your children will be the judges of you...
I am going to go find out.......
I will keep ya posted..in case your kids don't..they may be too afraid of you.
i've known two professional magicians in my lifetime.. one was a friend and the other was a very close friend.. both would discuss magic with me at different times.
each was devoted to protecting the secrecy necessary to maintain the brotherhood of illusion.. however, i am a curious person.
i am challenged by the unknown.
Perhaps I need to go back to myspace and heat some teenagers up somemore....let them know what is really up with thier self-centered parents..who don't give a damn about their futures..or their own.
It would be cool watching them put their parents on front street.....they seem to be alot more receptive to the future and new ideas.
Thanks for the tip.
i see this all the time!
people present their guesses into an unknown subject like god's mind and thoughts and plans as answers and truth.. but yet condemn others like the wt for doing it to them and label it "brainwashing" when they do it and it is brought out into the open for all to see.. problem is...when you present your guesses as answers..an answer is the end of a guess..and hinders others who trust you from searching further to find an answer..everyone loses that way and you actually "brainwash" others without really meaning to.
i propose an experiment..i have to work and take care of my short term needs right now..and cannot be on here 24/7 to catch these and expose them before they get out of hand...could i have some volenteers to help look for these guesses and remind others what they are...and we can see what the result is of looking out for one another like this.
I have made mistakes that have led to two precious and beautiful baby boys.......
Ask yourself this...
If I started to beat on the youngest for wrongdoing...would I be proud of my six year old if he stood up to me and tried to protect the two year old from my wrath...or hate him and call him a tratior for doing so?
Or would I want him to join me in condemning and punishing his little brother?
NOW......
What exactly do you think our Heavenly Father wants us to do?
My JW mom has no response to this question when I just asked her.....she said she will have to call me back.
Perhaps you know the answer to this question..or someone else on here does.
I am ALL ears.
